一応言っておくとカズーイの毒舌の件は英語版の話な 0230せがた七四郎2017/07/09(日) 06:28:25.94ID:Gs9midoh 英語版Wikipedia見たらスタッフが語ったStop N Swopの内容が普通に載ってたわ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjo-Kazooie_(series) In an August 2004 interview with ClubJoe,[13] an anonymous ex-Rare employee explained in detail how Stop 'N' Swop was going to work:
Only four eggs and the ice key were involved - two eggs (the cyan and yellow eggs, found in Mad Monster Mansion and Click Clock Wood) were "bad eggs" that would not be pointed to by Tooie, and would prevent Stop 'N' Swop from working since only hackers would have access to them.
Blackeye the pirate would give out sandcastle codes in Tooie in return for completing tasks, allowing the collection of the "good eggs" and ice key in Banjo-Kazooie. By going through the gold warp pot in the Grunty's Furnace Fun with the appropriate items, the ice key would sparkle and open one of the locked doors in the transformation room seen in the GAME OVER sequence (owing to a programming mistake, the ice key would disappear afterward, so this would only work once).
Going through this door would result in Grunty complaining about Blackeye, and a message to swap cartridges.
In Tooie, the four eggs would be used to enable special transformations - Kazooie to a dragon (the only one remaining in the final game), Banjo to a polar bear, and two unspecified transformations that were never coded owing to the abandonment of the feature - as "fun and useful, but not needed" bonuses for those who had both games.
RE: Have you seen the screen with all the eggs and ice key, the totals screen titled Stop 'N Swop?
CJ: Yes.
RE: Basically, you don't get the outside eggs, you only get the four in the middle. One of the bad eggs was in the winter of the last level and the other was in the barrel in the basement of the mansion. We put an 'X' by that one, and put 1881 on the other barrels. If you look at the screen, when the key spins it kind of makes a graphical 88 in the middle. That may have been too subtle, but it's clever. Someone actually asked us about that barrel in a pre-release interview and we laughed about it in our response. 0234せがた七四郎2017/07/10(月) 21:33:15.99ID:W+a6+Dzg マンション(ロッゴーの方)と森の卵だけはジグソーと音符集めるなら通る部屋にあって違和感あると思ったらフェイクなのか 0235せがた七四郎2017/07/10(月) 22:56:00.62ID:o0DYvJOJ 文読む限り地下の樽にあるのが罠卵ってことじゃない？X印に1881の樽って言ってるし 英語できないから機械翻訳だけど、4つの卵と鍵持ってポットに入るとどこかの扉が開くって言ってないか？ それってチューティーとグランチルダが入った機械がある部屋にある扉？ 0236せがた七四郎2017/07/10(月) 23:31:54.33ID:W+a6+Dzg>>234 勘違いしてた そもそも冬のナブナッツ部屋は行く必要なくて行く必要あるのはサビサビの船室だったな 0237せがた七四郎2017/07/11(火) 00:23:16.24ID:uC3eTvii あの夕陽が見れるなら… サビサビみなとで働きたい あとみんなでこれ歌いたい 世代なもので ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3RyqCAJkRU 0238せがた七四郎2017/07/11(火) 08:35:32.80ID:6LKSfS7W 実はバグを利用すればドンキーコング64のアイスキーの名残らしき挙動は見ることできる
>One of the bad eggs was in the winter of the last level and the other was in the barrel in the basement of the mansion. >We put an 'X' by that one, and put 1881 on the other barrels. 悪いタマゴの一つは最終面の冬で、もう一つはマンションの地下室の樽 私たちは1つの樽にXをかいてそれ以外に1881と書いた →そのままの意味
>If you look at the screen, when the key spins it kind of makes a graphical 88 in the middle. もしスクリーンを見れたなら、キーが回った時真ん中に８８と表示されるでしょう （正直よくわからない）
>That may have been too subtle, but it's clever. Someone actually asked us about that barrel in a pre-release interview and we laughed about it in our response. それは微妙かもしれないが賢い、プレリリースの時に誰かがその樽について尋ねられました、私たちは自分たちの反応に笑ったのです →おそらくSTOP N SWOPの情報がリークして樽の中にフェイク空間があることがある程度流布してる時にインタビューで「マンションの樽に1つだけ入れないのですがどうやったら入れるのですか」のような質問に対応したとき内心で笑いながら反応した
って翻訳するかな俺は 「キーが回った時に88と表示」の部分だけは翻訳がわからないな 順当に解釈するとSTOP N SWOPを実行したら＝アイスキーをSWOPで仕様＝キースピン ってなるんだろうけどよくわかんないや
